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Rejection.


On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:24:22 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function <...@hotmail.com

As most of you know - I'm a woman who has dabbled in magic, embraced
Zen. see's the worth of pyrronhism, and generally (after a major
indedent involving everything in a golden all) - (not helpful without
salt) has tried to move away from the more supertitious belief
systems of the major or alternative cultists. Oh yeah - and I'm
aspergers too. I don't think thats very relevent here, except in my
reactions.

What I understand right now, is that NT;s rarely talk about thier
feeling of rejection because when they don't accept it they don't
rejoin the club. The people left on the outside have changes in
brain chemistry that enhances thier feelings of isolation leaving
thier reaction to rejection enhanced.

I'm a social being who messes up social interaction by being
distracted by everything else in the moment - or if focused on a
single individual then I see more than I wanted too or is acceptable
to see by the rest of society.

Right now - my life is lonely because of being rejected by some people
and I don't want to present to the wider crowd after being rejected.
Yet I'm not so messed as I wouldn't have been if supportive groups
hadn't of existed to save me from the depression caused by rejection.
Accepting me instead of rejecting me. I have been in far too many
places in the past where I have wanted 'not to be' here. It's
defeatist.




Anonymous Wrote:

On Jun 8, 12:24 pm, Executive Function
<...@hotmail.com
by some people? No, no! You should say by blind people.


On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:20:32 -0700 (PDT), "J.P. \"Julian Sebastian\" Bacchae" <...@gmail.com

Loneliness, we've all been there.

The whole world is going so mad right now that you should never let
yourself feel down because some idiots.
Every talented out-of-the-box thinker, even if they might have
personal disagreements, is of unutterably high worth, intrinsically!
There are far to few brilliant shining stars in a world of dim dead
planets for them to feel like a nova is coming on because they aren't
part of some group.

I keep myself very busy in my activities, and am desperate to find a
means of saving this world, my present home, from the insane greed of
speculators, military greed, and the death of the mind brought on by
the bad media. Even in my down moments that brings me a sense of
purpose and inner peace.

When you stop to think of it, every body is paying almost 4 bux a
gallon of gas... outside of bleeding red, we're all bleeding green now
too.


You sound like a fascinating soul, and believe me, that when the
attacks come on the best thing to do is shake them off like a duck
sloughing off the water.


On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:10:28 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function <...@hotmail.com

On 8 Jun, 22:20, "J.P. \"Julian Sebastian\" Bacchae"
<...@gmail.com
Thanks Julian. :)

On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:49:36 -0700 (PDT), mika <...@gmail.com


This is simple. You feel rejected because you care what other people
think of you. Stop caring what others think of you and rejection will
no longer be a problem.

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:27:23 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function <...@hotmail.com

On 9 Jun, 00:49, mika <...@gmail.com
I don't feel rejected, I was rejected, demonstrably! What people
think of me is just thier opinion. Rejection is a problem if it means
that you don't socialise with other human beings because lack of
social contact is bad for peoples mental health. I'm pretty happy on
my own most of the time but I do need some social interaction from
time to time - offline and in the real world. I seem to require that
more the older I get.

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:03:51 -0700 (PDT), mika <...@gmail.com

On Jun 9, 9:27 am, Executive Function <...@hotmail.comwrote:

Alright, I'll restate. You feel bad about being rejected because you
care what other people think of you. My point remains relevant.
Stop caring what others think of you and rejection will no longer be a
problem.


How did being rejected by some people turn into being rejected by all
people?

Just because some people don't want to socialize with you doesn't mean
you can't have social contact with other people.


So? If you need it, get it. The problem is you wanted to be included
in a particular social situation by certain people and you weren't and
feel hurt about it, and so now are saying you're not going to be
included in any social situation by anyone. That's silly. Why do the
opinions of those certain people affect your attitude so deeply?

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:14:54 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function <...@hotmail.com

On 9 Jun, 19:03, mika <...@gmail.com
I guess you've just never lived in a small ex pat community where
everyone knows everyone else.

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:44:16 -0700 (PDT), mika <...@gmail.com


So move.

Sooner or later, you have to stop complaining and actually do
something to change your situation. Options are never as limited as
people imagine them to be. If you don't think you have any options,
get professional help right away.

On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:40:07 -0700, "Tom" <...@comcast.net


"Executive Function" <...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

A very good way to counter a feeling of rejection is to rejoin the club.


Another good way to counter a feeling of rejection is to regard all other
rejects as part of a club to which you belong.

"There are two kinds of people in the world: those who think there are two
kinds of people in the world and those who don't."


I suggest you read "Unwritten Rules of Social Relationships: Decoding
Social Mysteries Through the Unique Perspectives of Autism" by Temple
Grandin and Sean Barron. They have outlined, from their individual
perspectives as successful autistic individuals, ten rules of social
relationshps that they believe will be helpful to people like you.

1. Rules are not absolute. They are situation-based and people-based.
2. Not everything is equally important in the grand scheme of things.
3. Everyone in the world makes mistakes. It doesn't have to ruin your day.
4. Honesty is different from diplomacy.
5. Being polite is appropriate in all situations but impoliteness may not
be. When in doubt, the default should be polite.
6. Not everyone who is nice to me is my friend.
7. People act differently in public than they do in private.
8. People behave in observeable ways when they are turned off and you can
learn to identify those behaviors.
9. "Fitting in" is often tied to looking and sounding like you fit in.
10. People are responsible for their own behaviors.


Well, not right away, perhaps. After a social upheaval, its normal for
people to isolate themselves for a while and then re-establish contacts
gradually after a short break. It gives everybody time to get used to the
new situation.


On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:09:37 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function <...@hotmail.com

On 8 Jun, 20:40, "Tom" <...@comcast.net
They are a good set of rules - but they don't cover everything. I got
into trouble by being generous and thought I was also being polite and
respectful, but I apparently insulted people by not knowing the
obscure social conventions governing such matters, and then got into
deeper water by questioning the value of said social convention. Then
of course, I was upset because I thought the amount of anger directed
at me was disproportionate and I didn't just 'let it go', but (I'll be
honest) sulked and was in a bad withdrawn mood. I showed my face
again today, and it seems to have been forgotten about or smoothed
over behind the scenes. People are wierd.

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:03:33 -0700, "Tom" <...@comcast.net


"Executive Function" <...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

Remember Rule 1.


Remember Rule 4.


Remember Rule 3.

Get the book. Temple Grandin is a pip. Are you familiar with her at all?

http://www.templegrandin.com/

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