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Nimetz gets ball rolling on name
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:07:13 -0700 (PDT), pavel <...@yahoo.com
Nimetz gets ball rolling on name
(Kathimerini, Athens, June 27th, 2008)
http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_100006_27/06/2008_98064
The United Nations mediator on the Macedonia name dispute yesterday
discussed a new “package of ideas” with Foreign Minister Dora
Bakoyannis in the first essential move toward a settlement since
Athens vetoed Skopje’s bid to join NATO in early April.
UN envoy Matthew Nimetz, who is due in Skopje today for talks, said he
was seeking to sound out government officials from both sides before
making a new proposal for a name settlement.
According to sources, Nimetz has moved away from “double-barreled”
names with hyphens. The Constitutional Republic of Macedonia is
believed to be a new alternative, while New Macedonia, Upper Macedonia
and Northern Macedonia are reportedly still on the table.
Following his talks with Bakoyannis, Nimetz stressed that talks were
focusing on finding an alternative name for the Former Yugoslav
Republic of Macedonia (FYROM), “not on issues of identity and
language,” which FYROM government officials have been attempting to
raise in discussions.
Nimetz refused to set a deadline for a settlement, saying that Greece
and FYROM are not yet ready for bilateral talks.
Earlier yesterday Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis called on the newly
elected FYROM government “to leave behind the provocative rhetoric of
the pre-election period so we can reach a mutually acceptable
solution.”
Bakoyannis stressed that such a solution should be “without
conditions” – an apparent reference to Skopje’s demand that any name
agreed upon in UN-mediated talks should be submitted to a national
referendum.
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Utrinski vesnuk daily, Skopje, June 27th, 2008
http://www.utrinski.com.mk/?ItemID=75CF937CD2F9BA4A973D5926CD1BD671
According to the Macedonian media, the three proposed of
Nimitz names are: Northern Macedonia, Vardar Macedonia, and
Upper Macedonia. New Macedonia is unacceptable, and "Constitutional
Republic of Macedonia" would be a good solution, but probably it
would be not acceptable for Greece.
By BBC, the US President George Bush is making the last efforts
before the end of his mandate to resolve the long standing issue
between
the Republic of Macedonia and Greece. The US wants the name to
be settled before July 9th in order Macedonia to be invited into
NATO together with Albania and Croatia. But Greece is reluctant
and claimes that there are not any dead-lines for resolving the issue.
According to the Macedonian media, Greece can wait to see the
results of the elections in the US, as the candidate-president
Obama clearly claimed that he is for better relations between the
US and Greece, and that "Macedonia has to input more efforts in
order to resolve the name issue with Greece".
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:38:36 -0400, ParagonZ <...@yahoo.com
pavel explained on 6/27/2008 :
What is the rush Skop? Going some place,payback is a bitch,now you are
dealing with 90% of the Greek people. :-(
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Put the loser troll in jail
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:01:31 -0700 (PDT), ♥ Seanie Loves AOL for sneering at GRIK crybabies ♥ <...@aol.com
On Jun 27, 1:38�pm, ParagonZ <...@yahoo.com
WINDSOR ONTARIO PHARMACY
PWNT
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When you use the word 'Macedonia' or 'Macedonian' outside a Greek
context please remember to use double quotes so as to remind your
readers that the real Macedonia is One and it is Greek.
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:02:32 -0700 (PDT), ♥ Seanie Loves AOL for sneering at GRIK crybabies ♥ <...@aol.com
Athens is ALBANIA
Selanik is TURKIYE
Get over it, butthurt GRIKS
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:50:49 -0700 (PDT), ADR <...@yahoo.com
On Jun 27, 5:02 pm, ♥ Seanie Loves AOL for sneering at GRIK crybabies
♥ <...@aol.com
This was funny!!! Post more jokes, please!!
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:50:26 +0200, Panta Rhei <...@test.invalid
♥ Seanie Loves AOL for sneering at GRIK crybabies ♥, aka Asshole Ruttledge™
from Bromley, London, a full-blown psychopath as you can see, writes:
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Some say Asshole Ruttledge™ was born like that, some claim he became
like that after getting fucked by a fat and ugly Turk, some believe he
became the complete, devastated psycho after everybody on Usenet beat
the living daylights out of him, for years. You decide! LOL
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:01:47 -0400, ++ <...@spambot.com
Please do not show yourself to be a brainwashed idiot by using quotation
marks unnecessarily.
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:52:48 -0300, Nashton <...@na.ca
LOL.
Poor you.
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:40:55 -0700 (PDT), ADR <...@yahoo.com
On Jun 27, 2:01 pm, ++ <...@spambot.com
Galina, take it easy. At the end, there is going to be a solution and
you would need to embrace it. It is clear now that FYROM will have to
accept a modifier to the term "Macedonia" or become a pariah state. I
do not think that anybody wants this, more so the people of FYROM.
The benefits of reaching a solution will be multiple for all. The
best would be the loosening of the grip of the Macedonists on the soul
of this place and the liberty to seek the real roots.
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:24:40 +1000, "Krater Makedonski" <...@optusnet.com.au
The Macedonian odrod-grkoman "ADR" <...@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
Galina, take it easy. At the end, there is going to be a solution and
you would need to embrace it. It is clear now that FYROM will have to
accept a modifier to the term "Macedonia" or become a pariah state. I
do not think that anybody wants this, more so the people of FYROM.
The benefits of reaching a solution will be multiple for all.
**** Especially for the "Black Athenians", where they once and for all can
"legitimise" their occupation/colnisation of their "new territory"
Macedonia. He, he, he... You are very funny. In this point of time, at the
expense of the (ethnic) Macedonians. But history tells us that nothing lasts
forever, ODROD-GRKOMAN. You should also be aware that odrodi-traitors of
your ilk are a short-term, EXPENDABLE commodity. They are repugnant even to
their masters. And your "Black Athena" masters are no different to the
others. You make me puke, GRKOMAN. ****
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 01:08:28 +0300, "S_N" <...@pri.abv.bg
The last time I checked noone doubted the legitimacy of Greek possesion over
Aegean Macedonia.
But there we go, eh Zhivko - succumbing to irredentist notions...
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