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WHS Windows Home Server
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 06:14:12 -0400, "- Bobb -" <...@noemail.123
I looked and couldn't find specific newsgroup for WHS, so if this is the
right group... I've looked around and still wondering:
1. Who / what is the target market for it ?
If it's homes with a lot of PC's - it that market really big enough ?
2. Getting HOME server vs. "regular server 2003" ...
Would you know ... I would assume that the ISP charges for " a server" as
opposed to PC ? My reason for asking is that I've been watching it since
release and thinking "what can this do for users that Server2003
couldn't".
I thought there would be some software app included / some big reason to
"have to have it", but I don't see anything. From the write-ups, it didn't
offer the buyer 'anything extra'. In fact, the reviews show the interface
is pretty stark and for users that DID have lots of stuff to hook up, the
HP model doesn't even have many connections.
( I know some folks that wouldn't mind the price - but I'd find it hard to
justify WHS for just internet file access or " just getting another PC"
for file sharing /backup. )
I'll try it but wondering if anyone has/tried it and can provide insight ?
Thanks.
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Windows Server 2008 Ent 64Bit , remote desktop probmlem
[04 Sep 2008]
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 07:56:04 +0200, "Reggiani Mattia" <reggiani.mattia@ gmail.com
Hello...
all ,
i have a strange problem with remote desktop in administrative mode ; i have
an HP...
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volume shadow copy:8004230f
[04 Sep 2008]
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 03:59:01 -0700, Emre <Emre@discussions .microsoft.com
Hello,
When ...
I backup the sys state with Ntbackup I see an error
Error returned while creating the volume...
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Web-Server: Connectivity
[04 Sep 2008]
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 03:35:01 -0700, Patrick D. <PatrickD@discuss ions.microsoft.com
Hi,...
virtual Windows Server 2003 Standard as Webserver:
the server cannot connect to the internet...
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:27:24 -0400, "- Bobb -" <...@noemail.123
Thank you for the pointers
"Meinolf Weber" <...@msnews.microsoft.com...
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:34:07 +0200, "Florian Frommherz [MVP]" <...@frickelsoft.DELETETHIS.net
Howdie!
- Bobb - schrieb:
I guess they wouldn't ship it, if there wasn't enough market ;)
Technically, it would best be compared to Small Business Server 2003 as
it's built on top of that technology. But we're talking about real
benefits here, not only technical stuff...
Compared to a full-blown server OS, there's the licencing stuff - you
don't to buy an expensive license since you don't wanna run clustering
services, domain services and stuff. Besides that, WHS offers a rich set
of "tools" that help you create shares and create a remote web interface
logon to the box so you can access your pictures and files and stuff
from everywhere.
It comes with a connector software that lets you image all "client" pcs
around and restores them in case they're messed up. The imaging works
with sort of deltas as every file gets imaged only once - no matter on
how many machines it is (that's at least how I got it). I guess all the
media service don't really come with WS2003 - at least not in a way you
could use them right-away.
Made simple, WHS is for home users that don't care about technical
issues much. It's mostly wizard-based. If you're an IT-Pro, I guess
you'll not find much that you can use that WS 2003 wouldn't offer you.
From a home user's perspective, it's a product you could use to backup
and store your files on - including a backup solution for the machines
around. It's even cool to use as a media station.
I personally wouldn't use it as I've no need for it. Others might think
different :)
cheers,
Florian
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Microsoft MVP - Group Policy
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:41:48 -0400, "- Bobb -" <...@noemail.123
"Florian Frommherz [MVP]" flor...@frickelsoft.DELETETHIS.net wrote in
message news...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
They could "offer it" for sale , but I was just wondering how many
real-world buyers ( since I don't know any " backup hungry" homeusers). As
you say:
"I personally wouldn't use it as I've no need for it. " - that's my
feeling too.
I'll check out your website/blogs.
Danke sch
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:59:08 -0400, "- Bobb -" <...@noemail.123
From a link on one of your links ... I found this :
http://download.microsoft.com/download/b/4/9/b491dc53-fbbf-4763-9c7d-bc66577764 50/WHS_Reviewer_Guide.pdf
" You may need to add services from your broadband provider to use Windows
Home Servers remote access features. For example, you will need certain
"ports" to be open to use these features. Some broadband providers block
certain ports for customers on some service plans. Also, some broadband
providers terms of service may limit or prohibit setting up and running
of "servers" on their networks by some customers on some service plans.
Make sure that your use of Windows Home Server features follows your
broadband providers terms of service."
THAT's a big part of what I was looking for ! My ISP charges $175 per
month for a server connection - instead of $42 for my current setup. So I
wouldn't be using that feature.
"- Bobb -" <...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:45:44 -0700, "Kerry Brown" <...@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m
I've installed it just for the backup features. It is the best backup
solution I've seen for a SOHO network. It can be installed on minimal
hardware. I use a Duron CPU, 512 MB, and a couple of 500GB hard drives.
Other than the hard drives the hardware was sitting in a junk pile in the
basement waiting to go to the recycle depot. It has built in redundancy and
is fully supported when doing bare metal restores. It even backs up my SBS
server, although I recommend a second backup for this as it's not a
supported solution for SBS. I also do a standard SBS backup to a USB drive
once a week.
To answer your question. Server 2003 costs considerably more, especially
when you add in the hardware costs to get the same level of file system
redundancy. Server 2003 does not have the same backup capabilities without
adding 3rd party software or doing some very advanced scripting with
NTBackup. The only backup solutions I've tried that even come close to the
same ease of use are Acronis and Shadowprotect which are both ~$1,000.00 to
get the same capabilities for a SBS server and nine clients. Even though
it's called Home Server I'm recommending it for my SOHO/SMB customers as a
backup solution. I can install a decent backup solution for less than the
cost of the software alone with a Server 2003 solution. All the other
features are just a bonus for me.
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Kerry Brown
MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
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