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The only way TRUE PEACE will happen is

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:03:55 -0700 (PDT), AirRaid <...@gmail.com


When Israel is 100% secure, with much larger boarders than now, or
1967. When they are more or less back to the original dimensions of
ancient Israel and ancient Judah. Which means all of Lebanon is
swallowed up and significant parts of Jordan and Syria are back in
Jewish hands.

When there is no more bullshit of a "Palestinian State" within the
West Bank + Gaza, which will NEVER happen.

When all the arabs are scattered around the middle east without these
countries of their own (which don't belong to them) that were created
by the British in the early 20th Century by drawing lines on a map.

I PROMISE YOU THAT EVERY so called 'peace' effort short of that
will mean violence & death for all sides.

-a non-Jewish American, who supports the Jewish people and Israel.

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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:30:07 -0400, Gary Renzetti <...@connection.com

<big snip


Read: A brainwashed asshole.

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:18:30 GMT, "savewhatever youcan" <...@yahoo.com

israel will be long gone by then. How you can't see Russia and Korea and
Pakistan and Saudi money. Its already happened. One pak bomb or Korean bomb
and or Saudi funded bomb its over. I am prepared the jews are not. My only
question is will Israel get those that helped destroy it and I think not.


On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:38:15 -0700 (PDT), AirRaid <...@gmail.com

On Jun 20, 2:18 pm, "savewhatever youcan"
<...@yahoo.com


You forget, Israel is the 4th largest nuclear power on earth. with
between 200 and 400 nuclear weapons.
That's more than the United Kingdom/Great Britain.

Israel has the capability to destroy every arab & muslim nation on
earth
in a few minutes (by missile) or a few hours (by aircraft).

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:47:58 -0700 (PDT), TERRY CROSS <...@hotmail.com

On Jun 20, 2:38 pm, AirRaid <...@gmail.com
Your right and Vannanu confirmed what you wrote above.

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:40:18 -0400, "ElParedon" <...@bellsouth.net


"AirRaid" <...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

Why don't you stick one of those up your arsehole and blow yourself up,


On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:45:48 -0700, "Dougt" <...@now.com

"AirRaid" <...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

The above is really the only reason Israel still exists -- it's not by
the good graces of the muslime pigs.


On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:00:08 -0400, "ElParedon" <...@bellsouth.net


"Dougt" <...@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...

ANY PIG CAN DO THAT NOWDAYS. PIG


On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:38:01 -0400, "ElParedon" <...@bellsouth.net


"AirRaid" <...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

How many "boarders" does Kikeland have? I did not know it was an apartment
building!


On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:51:26 -0700 (PDT), AirRaid <...@gmail.com

On Jun 20, 3:38 pm, "ElParedon" <...@bellsouth.net
Israel will probably be a medium sized nation, instead of a small
nation. Whatever God decides/has decided.

If you look at maps of ancient Israel plus ancient Judah, it's
roughly 3 to 7 times larger than present-day Israel.

Even the Israeli government is against expanding Israel massively, to
what it was in ancient times. The Israeli government is CHEATING the
Jews out of their land, by giving more & more of it to the arabs, in
exchange for a false peace. THOSE are the evil Israeli's to be
against. The ones that have betrayed God's people.

I believe that God will remove the corrupt Israeli government and
when Jesus returns to rule this earth, He will set the rightful
boarders of the nation of Israel. For those that don't believe in God
and His promises to the Jews, I won't argue it. You either believe it
or you don't.

Anyway until then, until Christ returns, there will be bloodshed &
war, whether the governments talk of peace or not.




On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:57:41 -0400, Gary Renzetti <...@connection.com

"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
>

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:03:15 -0400, "ElParedon" <...@bellsouth.net


"AirRaid" <...@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

ISRAEL HAD NEVER EXISTED


On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:57:03 -0700 (PDT), YhauWa <...@gmail.com

On Jun 21, 2:51 am, AirRaid <...@gmail.com

There was only Small Israel which was in the land of the west bank
they took it from the original Palestinians living there ( time of
king David) and wiped many of them out then build there kingdom on
the soil mixed with Palestinian blood there and it was there for only
about 70 years, then they went away, now they return back and killing
Plaestians and bulding there kingdom again but wating for Jesus , as
many Christan's believe will come and kill them all, and clean the
earth from the shit since of Jews, then the world will live in peace
for ever....

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:10:10 +1000, "Arnborg" <...@gmail.com


"AirRaid" <...@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

There is no ancient Israel.


On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:17:45 -0400, Gary Renzetti <...@connection.com

Indeed. The zionists who post here have been invited many times to post
even one ancient map showing an "israel" and have never been able to do
so. No King David, no King Solomon, no Moses, no Exodus from Egypt. No
inscriptions, no artifacts, no pottery shards, sfa.
Judea and Samaria more recently, yes.
But the ancient stuff?

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:01:13 -0700 (PDT), YhauWa <...@gmail.com

On Jun 21, 4:17 am, Gary Renzetti <...@connection.com

Man it is not only Zionist it is all supporting Israel even many
western Zionest dogs like Bush is believing Israel if from the Nile to
Ifrate in Iraq, that's why the took over Iraq not for Oil it is to
build Greater Israel, and the map is on the walls of Israel
Parliament,



On Jun 20, 3:03 pm, AirRaid <...@gmail.com
You are a non-Jewish idiot. Did your dopey reverend tell you this or
do you swallow the garden variety Zionist propaganda?

Dismantling Israel and giving it back to the Arabs would be the
sure solution. The Zionist scum just ending the illegal occupation
along with ending the constant threats to attack their neighbors would
be a start.

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:42:56 -0700 (PDT), TERRY CROSS <...@hotmail.com

On Jun 20, 1:03 pm, AirRaid <...@gmail.com
Who told you your not a Jew? There are many people that are Jews and
don't even know it.

On 20 Jun 2008 20:47:04 GMT, Bert Hyman <...@iphouse.com

Cros...@hotmail.com (TERRY CROSS) wrote in
news...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:


Please elaborate.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | ber...@iphouse.com

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:40:13 -0700 (PDT), AirRaid <...@gmail.com

On Jun 20, 1:42 pm, TERRY CROSS <...@hotmail.com
As far as I know, I'm not, but it would be cool to discover that I
was. I'd like to be Jewish.

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:09:45 +1000, "Arnborg" <...@gmail.com


"AirRaid" <...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

You would fit in so easily. You are stupid and you are a liar.


On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:04:08 -0400, Gary Renzetti <...@connection.com

Stupid? Certainly. (I'm talking about the poster as an individual, *not*
Jews collectively).
Jews in general are highly intelligent, and you make a grave error to
think otherwise. The poster has been brainwashed by propaganda and
doesn't do enough thinking and reading for himself.

A liar? No.
He honestly believes the stuff he's posting.

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:01:37 -0400, "ElParedon" <...@bellsouth.net


"TERRY CROSS" <...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 20, 1:03 pm, AirRaid <...@gmail.com
Who told you your not a Jew? There are many people that are Jews and
don't even know it.

SHIT YEAH CHARLES MANSON, FOR ONE


On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:52:00 -0400, Eli Grubman <...@googlemail.com

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:42:56 -0700 (PDT), TERRY CROSS
<...@hotmail.com

Don't be absurd. How can anyone with access to a mirror not know
they're a jew? That jew Madeleine Albright (sic) must have grown up
in a house with no mirrors!

Eli

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:31:06 -0400, Eli Grubman <...@googlemail.com

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:03:55 -0700 (PDT), AirRaid
<...@gmail.com

No, it's when 'Israel' is wiped off the face of the earth. NATO has
the means to do it.

Eli

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:27:34 +0200, Panta Rhei <...@test.invalid

Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
writes:


The right proper, impotent psychopath today again, eh, psycho Pedo Rev? <BG
And here's the retard again, already fully retarded in 2002, posting almost
the identical garbage he keeps posting still today:

http://home.nyc.rr.com/cypherpunk/tiscali-kook.html

ROTFLOL

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:31:47 -0700 (PDT), AirRaid <...@gmail.com

On Jun 20, 2:31 pm, Eli Grubman <...@googlemail.com
Idiot, Israel is ALLIED with NATO nations.

Turkey, a NATO member, has strategic defense agreements with Israel.

Greece, another NATO nation, is also an Israeli ally.

SEE_____________________________________________________________________________ ______________________
"The Greek Air force confirmed its participation in the Israeli
military exercise held three weeks ago, but did not confirm the claim
by Washington officials that it was a rehearsal for a potential attack
on Iran. The Greek source stated no ground targets were involved as
the drill was mainly aimed at personnel training. It was the first
large-scale exercise between Israel and the air force of Greece, a
member of NATO.

UP to 40 Israeli Air force F-15 and F-16 warplanes were based at the
Greek Air Force Station at Souda on the southern Mediterranean island
of Crete for the duration of the exercise, said the source."
________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________




Cool.


On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:05:58 -0400, Eli Grubman <...@googlemail.com



The Grik air farce is a joke! All Griks are a joke.
Better you stick to greeking each other.

Eli


On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:53:23 +0200, Panta Rhei <...@test.invalid

Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
writes:




Now HERE's the REAL joke:

The retard above, posting as Grabmen right now, already fully retarded in
the year 2002, posting almost the identical garbage he is still posting
today:

http://home.nyc.rr.com/cypherpunk/tiscali-kook.html


ROTFLOL

F'up to alt.idiots

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:52:06 -0400, Eli Grubman <...@googlemail.com

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:31:47 -0700 (PDT), AirRaid
<...@gmail.com

Asshole. 'Israel' is an ENEMY of the US and NATO.


But not apparently with Grease, another NATO nation.


Allies such as 'Israel' nobody needs. 'Israel' sells American arms
and technology to America's other enemies.

Eli

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:53:23 +0200, Panta Rhei <...@test.invalid

Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
writes:



Well asshole: then tell the US and the NATO! <BG

Well, tell that the Israelis then, asshole!


Well, asshole, then tell that the Americans!

Seems no one will listen to a psychopath like you! LMAO!

The retard above, posting now as Grabmen; already fully retarded in 2002,
posting almost the identical garbage as today:

http://home.nyc.rr.com/cypherpunk/tiscali-kook.html

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:13:40 -0400, "ElParedon" <...@bellsouth.net


"AirRaid" <...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

OH YES GREEKS JUST LOVE JEWS, AND SO DO TURKS!




Eli Grabmen is a psychopath and must get arrested. If you read and
don't act upon his posts you are guilty!


On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:51:52 -0400, Eli Grubman <...@googlemail.com



You are a Grik and must be greeked. If you read and don't act upon
your greeking instincts you dishonour Grease!

Eli


On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:44:17 -0700 (PDT), TERRY CROSS <...@hotmail.com


Everyone knows Elis problem. He jacks-off in a sock.

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:51:59 -0400, Eli Grubman <...@googlemail.com

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:44:17 -0700 (PDT), TERRY CROSS
<...@hotmail.com

Everyone knows *your* problem, sunshine. You jack off in your
sister's asshole.

Eli

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:46:40 -0700, "Dougt" <...@now.com

But who cleans it after he's thru? Probably his
mommie.

"TERRY CROSS" <...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

Everyone knows Elis problem. He jacks-off in a sock.


On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:52:06 -0400, Eli Grubman <...@googlemail.com

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:46:40 -0700, "üDougtÇ" <...@now.com

Who wipes your ass after you get sodomised, Duhg?

Eli





On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:53:23 +0200, Panta Rhei <...@test.invalid

Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
writes:



Hmm... Asshole Ruttledge™ will most likely pick you as his lover, after he
has read this your post, Pedo Rev!!!

Maybe phone him up as soon as possible. The poor unhappy homo is still
married to that fat Turk! This is your big chance now!!!!

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:33:44 -0700, "Dougt" <...@now.com

"Eli Grubman" <...@4ax.com...

Don't project your personal experiences/fantasies on
me Defendario.


On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:31:57 -0400, Eli Grubman <...@googlemail.com

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:33:44 -0700, "üDougtÇ" <...@now.com

So don't project yours onto others, Duhg.

Eli

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:01:49 -0700 (PDT), "sim...@yahoo.com" <...@yahoo.com

AirRaid <...@gmail.com
I agree, but I insist that Palestinian and Israeli Muslims are not
abused, even if they behave like monsters.


Me too. I am a liberal, agnostic, and environmentalist.

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:40:53 -0400, "ElParedon" <...@bellsouth.net


<...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
AirRaid <...@gmail.com
I agree, but I insist that Palestinian and Israeli Muslims are not
abused, even if they behave like monsters.


Me too. I am a liberal, agnostic, and environmentalist.

YOU SOUND LIKE AN ANGEL. BUT PALESTINE BELONGS TO PALESTINIANS AND WILL
NEVER BELONG TO THE THIEVES!


On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:49:58 -0700, "Dougt" <...@now.com

<...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...

I agree, but I insist that Palestinian and Israeli Muslims are not
abused, even if they behave like monsters.

*****************
How about my idea of gently deporting them to a New Mecca to
be built in the Sinai?

A New Mecca w/swimming pools, condominiums, comedy clubs, mosques,
churches and synagogues. A New Mecca where all religions exist in harmony
and peace. A New Mecca of peaceful co-existence!

Let's all hold hands and sing Cumbaya!


On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:04:26 -0400, "ElParedon" <...@bellsouth.net


"Dougt" <...@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...

EAT SHIT YOU STUPID IDIOT, HITLER DID HAVE A BETTER IDEA


On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:14:18 -0700 (PDT), "sim...@yahoo.com" <...@yahoo.com

"üDougtÇ" <...@now.com
It is doable, but it will take new, advanced technology that I am
developing now: cheap energy, cheap desalination, cheap structural
materials, cheap manufacturing, and cheap telerobotics to control the
bad guys. (I am very high caliber technology expert.)

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:16:52 -0400, Gary Renzetti <...@connection.com

Sure, but since the zioscum have yet to give the Palestinian refugees
*sheckel* *one* for the homes and lands they stole from them in 1948 be
state terrorism, this is highly unlikely to say the least.
>

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:35:00 -0700, "Dougt" <...@now.com

"Gary Renzetti" <...@PRIMUS.CA...

Just like the muslime pigs in Iran, Egypt and Sryia stole the lands and
property from the Jewish people who left their Islamonazi theocratic
shitholes without recompense.


On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:15:35 -0400, Gary Renzetti <...@connection.com

As a direct consequence of zioscum terrorism to the Palestinian Arabs.
Jews had lived
peacefully in all of those places before their buddies in Palestine started
brutalizing the locals.

Btw asshole, there is a Jewish community in Iran to this
very day, in case you had failed to notice.

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:27:59 -0400, "TheZ" <...@nospam.com

.....and they wish to hell they would be allowed to leave.

"Gary Renzetti" <...@PRIMUS.CA...


On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:00:40 -0400, Gary Renzetti <...@connection.com

I'm sure that the Iranians would be happy to be rid of them, if they'd
care to depart. If you have evidence to the contrary, please present it.

>

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:43:38 -0400, "TheZ" <...@nospam.com

What evidence do you need, they have been refused exit visa for years.
Living in "peace" for a Jew in any Arab country, means no legal rights, no
citizenship, and no land ownership.

"Gary Renzetti" <...@PRIMUS.CA...

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:56:31 +1000, "B. H. Cramer" <...@alltimes.yep


"TheZ" <...@read1.cgocable.net...

They were doing very well in Palestine until the European zionazis started
turning up in large numbers.

One thing one must say for the Zionazis though - They wre consistent. They
brutalised the resident yids equally as much as they brutalised the resident
Arabs.




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