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Heath Ledger is dead. - ebassist dot com
Story here.
Yikes.
Another drug casualty, it looks like.
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Holy shit. 28? Man, that's way young...
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Looks like Brokeback Mtn finally got to him.
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Yeah, I was just reading that.
Looks like drugs have got another one, whether it was intentional or not I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Dammit.
I liked what little I've seen of his work.
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Quote: : Zamfir said...
Dammit.
I liked what little I've seen of his work.
Same here. His presence even made a chick flick (10 Things I hate About You) tolerable.
Damn shame. Good actor, too.
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Quite a shame - way too young.
I hope Mel is ok.
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Quote: : Grant Sharkey said...
Quite a shame - way too young.
I hope Mel is ok.
Just saw it (*cough* on a wedding forum...
Shhh) and came straight here to post it.
As usual, you guys are way ahead of me.
Gutted.
Such a waste of talent.
BBC article
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Police said they did not suspect foul play and that his body had been discovered surrounded by pills.
"We are investigating the possibility of an overdose," police spokesman Paul Browne told Reuters news agency.
"There were pills within the vicinity of the bed."
Obviously, this sounds like a suicide.
I can't wrap my head around it if it was.
I mean, young, famous, rich, adored by a multitude of women worldwide-not to mention a two year old kid of his own.
Here's a guy that had...well, if not everything, then more than most people dare to have in their entire lives, and he throws it away (again, assuming it was suicide).
No problem is ever too great to warrant that solution, and man, did he have a LOT to live for...
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Quote: : Bogster said...
Police said they did not suspect foul play and that his body had been discovered surrounded by pills.
"We are investigating the possibility of an overdose," police spokesman Paul Browne told Reuters news agency.
"There were pills within the vicinity of the bed."
Obviously, this sounds like a suicide.
I can't wrap my head around it if it was.
I mean, young, famous, rich, adored by a multitude of women worldwide-not to mention a two year old kid of his own.
Here's a guy that had...well, if not everything, then more than most people dare to have in their entire lives, and he throws it away (again, assuming it was suicide).
No problem is ever too great to warrant that solution, and man, did he have a LOT to live for...
I agree. However, having known people who've committed suicide I can also see the other side where nothing can bring someone around to thinking the world would be better off without them.
Not a big fan of speculating before a coroner's report is filed - could have been a lot of things at the moment.
So this is only on the topic of assumed suicide.
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Quote: : Grant Sharkey said...
I agree. However, having known people who've committed suicide I can also see the other side where nothing can bring someone around to thinking the world would be better off without them.
Not a big fan of speculating before a coroner's report is filed - could have been a lot of things at the moment.
So this is only on the topic of assumed suicide.
Oh, I understand.
Clearly speculation on my part, but if the above statement about how he was found is true, one can only assume.
And yes-I've often heard that when someone is truly depressed to the point of being suicidal, that no one or nothing can dissuade them if they're adamant about "ending it all".
Still a shame...
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Quote: : Bogster said...
Oh, I understand.
Clearly speculation on my part, but if the above statement about how he was found is true, one can only assume.
And yes-I've often heard that when someone is truly depressed to the point of being suicidal, that no one or nothing can dissuade them if they're adamant about "ending it all".
Still a shame... It takes a certain mindset to go through with it...that's for sure.
It's those pissy 'cry for help' attempts that give it a bad rap.
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Quote: : Grant Sharkey said...
It takes a certain mindset to go through with it...that's for sure.
It's those pissy 'cry for help' attempts that give it a bad rap.
True. But I also think it takes more courage for someone to face things in this world than to cop out and take themselves out of it.
One takes merely a second of courage and the other....well a hell of a lot more.
to me (and I've had my life seriously affected before by people who have committed suicide) it is the cowards way out.
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Without a note I believe they call these things "accidental overdoses".
Who knows?
We'll have to wait and see how many pills were in his system.
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Quote: : Jugghaid said...
True. But I also think it takes more courage for someone to face things in this world than to cop out and take themselves out of it.
One takes merely a second of courage and the other....well a hell of a lot more.
to me (and I've had my life seriously affected before by people who have committed suicide) it is the cowards way out.
I agree. It's definitely not an option in my book.
But there is a level of despair involved with doing it once and doing it correctly, that I don't think any of us can truly appreciate.
Again, this is discussing on speculation.
We should be recognising his achievements and stop being so sombre.
Why so serious?
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RIP.
I just watched the trailers for the new Batman movie and was really looking forward to seeing him as The Joker.
Now when I watch it it will be with overtones of sadness.
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Quote: : Grant Sharkey said...
I agree. It's definitely not an option in my book.
But there is a level of despair involved with doing it once and doing it correctly, that I don't think any of us can truly appreciate.
Again, this is discussing on speculation.
We should be recognising his achievements and stop being so sombre.
Why so serious?
Not overly serious.
Just expressing an opinion.
And maybe it was accidental.
Either way it's a tragic end to a life way too soon.
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Quote: : Jugghaid said...
Not overly serious.
Just expressing an opinion.
And maybe it was accidental.
Either way it's a tragic end to a life way too soon.
It was a joke. 'Why so serious?' is the tagline for the new Batman film.
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Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOzHorG2km0
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Quote: : Grant Sharkey said...
It was a joke. 'Why so serious?' is the tagline for the new Batman film.
Ah. haven't seen the trailers.
I did like the last one though.
Good flick.
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Quote: : Jugghaid said...
Ah. haven't seen the trailers.
I did like the last one though.
Good flick. Ahem, look at the post above your last one, sir.
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Quote: : Bogster said...
Ahem, look at the post above your last one, sir.
I did.
Looks like it might be pretty damn good too.
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Maybe he felt poorly over the separation from his girlfriend and with however his daughter was involved?
Losing the love of your life isn't easy.
But I tend to agree with Juggy on the cowardly thing.
Though I feel it's more of an ignorant rectocranial mistake than cowardice.
They don't thin about all the other people they put through hell to end their existence.
Sometimes people feel that they just can't bear it anymore.
Barring fatal illness and disease, I think suicidal folk need to realize that if they are patient, things will change.
You've only got 80 years in a 12 billion year old universe.
The likelihood that you even exist is just short of miraculous.
You've already won the lottery!
Might as well find out where the rest will take you.
You'll be dead soon enough: no point in rushing it.
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Dang...He was a guy who never got into the "Hollywood" garbage...Always seemed pretty grounded.
I never would have expected him to go out like that.
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Quote: : philthygeezer said...
Barring fatal illness and disease Here we definitely agree.
Different situation altogether.
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Quote: : Jugghaid said...
Here we definitely agree.
Different situation altogether.
I think where we agree and also where there is a perceived difference is that I think mental illness is a disease - it just kills some people in a different way.
Given the listed 'high points' of his career and life can easily flip on their heads and become burdens - put those on to a mind that can be depressed and you're looking at someone who will kill themself without even considering the options.
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Quote: : Edwin Arlington Robinson (1897) said...
Richard Cory
Whenever Richard Cory went downtown,
We people on the pavement looked at him;
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean favored, and imperially slim.
And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
"Good-morning," and he glittered when he walked.
And he was rich-- yes, richer than a king--
And admirably schooled in every grace:
In fine, we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.
So on we worked, and waited for the light,
And went without the meat, and cursed the bread;
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet through his head.
Never envy anyone.
Work on being happy with who you are now by accepting yourself in your current state.
Many have/are more and less than you.
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Quote: : Grant Sharkey said...
I think where we agree and also where there is a perceived difference is that I think mental illness is a disease - it just kills some people in a different way.
Given the listed 'high points' of his career and life can easily flip on their heads and become burdens - put those on to a mind that can be depressed and you're looking at someone who will kill themself without even considering the options.
I think this is a huge grey area.
A propensity to focus on the negative or dark side of things can turn into full blown depression.
Concentration / obsession on good or bad aspects of life can bring about huge change over time.
Lose something dear to you, then focus on your grief and powerlessness, stay in a room feeling sorry for yourself on evenings and weekends, lay in your bed listening to AIC over and over again, feeling the sorrow, powerlessness and self-hate wash over you like waves...
Is that a disease or a choice?
I think sometimes it is a genuine imbalance only correctable with meds.
But other times it's brain chemistry brought on by the user's concentration on negative things.
A choice to indulge pain and look down, blaming one's self, situation and others, rather than taking responsibility for one's self, working for happiness and looking at what one does have.
http://www.depressionisachoice.com/
http://theartofhappiness.com/
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Quote: : philthygeezer said...
I think this is a huge grey area.
A propensity to focus on the negative or dark side of things can turn into full blown depression.
Concentration / obsession on good or bad aspects of life can bring about huge change over time.
Lose something dear to you, then focus on your grief and powerlessness, stay in a room feeling sorry for yourself on evenings and weekends, lay in your bed listening to AIC over and over again, feeling the sorrow, powerlessness and self-hate wash over you like waves...
Is that a disease or a choice?
I think sometimes it is a genuine imbalance only correctable with meds.
But other times it's brain chemistry brought on by the user's concentration on negative things.
A choice to indulge pain and look down rather than fight it and look up.
http://www.depressionisachoice.com/
http://theartofhappiness.com/ It's definitely something chemical.
I believe in positive thinking etc.
But I also know there are things in your brain that you're not in control of just with thinking.
When stressed I go through long periods of anxiety (the flipside of depression) - I go to bed and it takes me 2 hours just to get to sleep because I wake up thinking I'm about die and the like.
'What's that pain in my arm?
Why does my chest feel tight?' - I know it's my brain, because these things don't happen when I'm working or out and about.
It's literally when i give myself time to subconsciously think about it do I ever consider these things.
When I didn't know what it was, it was getting very scary - and frankly, quite depressing.
But now I know better and just keep trying until i'm too tired to stay awake another second.
Beats meds by a long stretch but until you've experienced irrational thoughts that you know are irrational, it might be harder to understand.
The reason for it: I love my work - so it's nothing to get depressed about.
The cure for it: whilst it's bearable, i'll carry on and take all the sleep I can get (though i sometimes don't feel like going to bed, no matter how tired, because i don't want the hour of gasping myself awake whilst on the edge of sleep)
I've not been suicidal from it.
Far from, what I want to do is get some good sleep so I can get back to my great life without feeling tired.
Being proactive and, more importantly, understanding of mental conditions took a big step when my mind decided to have some.
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Quote: : philthygeezer said...
Never envy anyone.
Work on being happy with who you are now by accepting yourself in your current state.
Many have/are more and less than you.
That would make a kickass Emo song
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