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Batman: Gotham Knight(July 8th Release)The Official Thread!! - The Coming Soon! Boards
Batman: Gotham Knight
Regular Edition 13.99:
Special Edition 20.99:
Blu Ray Edition 22.99:
INFO
Synopsis:The producers of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight team with six of the most respected anime artists in Japan to explore Bruce Wayne's transition from tormented crime fighter to heroic icon of a crumbling metropolis.
Separated into six distinct chapters but intended to be viewed as a whole, this stylized look at immortal DC Comics superhero is the result of a collaboration between Yoshiaki Kawajiri (Ninja Scroll), Shojiro Nishimi (Tekkonkinkreet), Yasuhiro Aoki (Steamboy), Futoshi Higashide (Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack), Toshiyuki Kubooka (The Secret of Blue Water), and Hiroshi Morioka (Chronicle of the Wings).
Genre:Action
Rating: PG-13
Length:N/A UPDATED SOON!!
Reviews Thus Far:
"its something new and entirely fresh for the Dark Knight and that alone is worth checking it out if youre a DC Animation fan." (Batman: Gotham Knight appeared on The World's Finest website)
Thoughts?I'm just happy that they got Kevin Conroy to do the voice of Batman, can't wait.
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I ordered the Blu-ray.
Cant wait.
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Me neither, Youtube the trailers and they were amazing.
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Batman and anime must.
OWN!
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Anime-Passable...Batman-Gettholicious.
I'm far from an Anime fan(very little appeals to me)but the action in this movie looks off the hook.
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Kind of reminds me of when they did the Animatrix.
But I'm still gonna pick this up because it will be a nice segway into Dark Knight.
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Quote: : When it comes to the DC Universe line of DTVs, Warner has done an outstanding job.
Not only have they already adapted one of the best-selling comic stories ever (Superman Doomsday), theyve also turned one of the most critically acclaimed comics into a full length animated film (The New Frontier).
For the next DC animation outing we get a bridge of sorts between the Christopher Nolan Batman films.
While the continuity between the movies (and even the stories at time) is questionable at best, theres no doubt that fans will find this latest Batman animation venture anything short of a visual delight.
Combining the talent of over four different Japanese animation studios, Batman: Gotham Knight tells six different stories of The Dark Knight in various adventures.
Ranging from kids claiming they saw Batman in action to more serious angles such as gang war and a few of Gothams seedier villains like Scarecrow and Deadshot, Gotham Knight is a rich pallet of animation and storytelling from some of Japans premiere animation studios, as well as some of the comic book communities top writing talent.
While it may have been conceived to be a cash-in to The Dark Knights upcoming theatrical release, the final product is nothing short of a well-crafted series of short stories that show off the Bat like never before.
When typing that this film was a cash-in for The Dark Knight I had a sudden flashback to the last cash-in DTV that we were given in the DC animation world.
Im sure many will remember, with much disdain Im sure, the Brainiac Attacks DTV that got thrown out around Superman Returns release.
While Superman Returns may have been a box office disappointment (as well as the recipient of some lukewarm fan feedback), Brainiac Attacks was simply a rushed disappointment that failed to entertain the vast majority who watched it (Ive yet to set eyes on a single frame of it since completing my reviewand would have to be paid to watch it again).
Those worried that Gotham Knight might have suffered from a similar issue need not worry.
The writing found in Gotham Knight is some of the sharpest and darkest pieces to come out of the Batman world.
On top of the writing is some of the most visually stunning animation that youll likely ever see the Batman character take part in.
While its obviously all of the anime variety, the pieces presented in the six different stories are all wildly different (for the most part) in terms of character designs, with the only consistency being Gotham City in a few of the pieces (not surprising, considering Studio Bihou did the backgrounds for all of the segments).
Theres plenty to talk about with each segment but Ill leave that for the more in-depth and spoiler filled review portion to follow.
For now Im just going to go for more breadth and increase the depth once we get to each individual story.
One thing that sparked an odd amount of fan feedback was the casting of Kevin Conroy as the voice of Batman.
While many figured that the cast of The Dark Knight would be lending their voices to the production, ala The Animatrix, we ended up not receiving a single member of the films cast in this production.
As I surmised before viewing the film, the continuity between the Nolan universe and the one presented here is negligible.
Youll definitely benefit from having seen Batman Begins, as there are references to Scarecrow (who appears as one of the villains in Gotham Knight) as well as the Narrows, a place in Gotham that continues to be ravaged by the havoc that Scarecrow created.
What surprised me about the small backlash to Conroys casting is that with every production fans asked who would voice Batman and were always disappointed to hear it wasnt Conroy and would complain that a new person under the cowl might make it too difficult to swallow (I recall a few were disappointed to hear that Jeremy Sisto would voice Batman in The New Frontier
who I personally think do a great job in the role).
I can kind of see where the disjoint would be if this was as connected to Nolans world as Warners original press release would have led you to believe, but honestly Gotham Knight could have been made before Nolan came along and still make sense.
The Narrows are a simple setting, one that is audibly and visually explained, so theres little room for confusion, even if you havent seen Batman Begins.
I guess my point is, after two paragraphs, is that Kevin Conroy really just kicks ass.
While we hear him bring back some of the Batman elements that weve grown to love from his days as the Bat in Justice League, he throws his voice down even lower in some segments, creating a much darker sounding Batman than weve seen previously.
Some areas we have a Bruce Wayne thats lighthearted and in others one that is deep and moody.
Conroy is all over the map in terms of emotion and theres honestly not a doubt in my mind that bringing him on board for this production wasnt one of the best things for it.
Bale would have no doubt done a fine job in the role had the scheduling worked out for he and the rest of The Dark Knight cast, but we were definitely not given any kind of short of the stick with the vocal performances in this filmtheyre all top notch and utterly fantastic.
One of the things that surprised me most about the voice cast was how little I recognized them.
I picked up on Kevin Michael Richardson and Will Friedle only because Id heard them so much, but Corey Burton, George Newbern, Jason Marsden and Hynden Walch all flew past me as people Id heard in previous roles.
The actors did such a superb job of changing up their roles for this film that when paired with Conroys tweaked performances, it really feels like an all new voice cast and nothing like an anime-overlay on the previous DC animated works.
On top of the returning DC alum we have some newcomers in Ana Ortiz, Gary Dourdan, and David McCallum, all three of which bring in performances as police detectives and Alfred Pennyworth that will never once have you questioning the quality of the voice work.
So the voices are great, but what about the rest of it?
While the first story we get in the feature will no doubt bother some simply because the style and atmosphere of it all is so incredibly different from not what only were used to in DC animation but also because its not one of the segments that weve seen a lot of in the previews.
The animation style looks like something out of the video game series Jet Grind Radio and features a cast that sounds like theyre taken out of The Boondocks episodes, but dont let that throw you off.
While I can certainly appreciate the different art style, it will no doubt jar many viewers to the point theyll wonder what theyre getting into.
Stick with it, you wont be disappointed.
There are some absolutely stunning visual moments in the later segments that will make your jaw drop.
For the score we have a mix of composers Kevin Manthei ( Justice League: The New Frontier), Robert Kral (Superman Doomsday) and Christopher Drake (the Hellboy DTVs).
All bring their own style to the segments, with Drake throwing in a bit more sounds from the Batman Begins score than the others.
I actually thought Manthei scored the final segment of the filma few cues sounded similar to his work on The New Frontier, but I was surprised to see that Kral had scored them instead.
The music is wonderful, especially in the Working Through Pain and Deadshot shorts, where we get some emotional and action oriented pieces from Manthei and Kral.
It seems each time one of these DTVs comes out I get excited by the prospect of the soundtrack release.
Heres hoping La-La Land Records is able to bring this one out as quickly as they have for the previous DC Universe films.
While the film may have started with a whimper, it ended with a bang.
It slowly ramped up the depth and intensity with each story and while it isnt the Nolan universe tie-in you may be expecting, it is some of the finest animated Batman work Ive seen.
Visually the film was astounding, aurally the film was fantastic with the superb voice work and scores and from a writing standpoint it cant be beat.
While the first script seemed too much like something weve seen before, the following stories were all crafted and each one felt unique and not like anything weve seen in DC animation before.
Even after watching the film, Im not sure how to feel about it.
The fact that the stories remain intertwined yet separated makes it feel like it should be one cohesive story and instead its just a chopped presentation.
It really seemed like from the start that the stories would be completely disconnected from one another, as you go from a bright and rather cheery intro straight into something out of the HBO Spawn but soon everything else is connected either by characters or events that happen in each of the segments.
It can be a bit confusing to watch as you can only treat a few of the stories as stand-a-lone, while others rely on certain bits from the previous story or even two stories before it.
Aside from the waffling between connected stories and stand-a-lone, there isnt too much to find fault with in Gotham Knight.
Its something new and entirely fresh for The Dark Knight and that alone is worth checking it out if youre a DC Animation fan.
If you arent already a fan of Batman or the previous animated DC efforts, then Im afraid you wont find much here to reel you in.
Casual viewers will likely not have much patience to sit through all of the segments, as when treated like a film theres no real flow between stories and itll probably generate more confusion than it should.
As stand-a-lone units theyre almost too short to really get anyone too interested, as all of the artistic styles are different, which I can see turning away a few.
In any case, Gotham Knight will likely share the same success as The Animatrix.
Its audience may not have been as wide as the feature length Matrix films, but the die-hard viewers and casual fans greatly enjoyed it and theres no doubt in my mind that Gotham Knight will please those who know what theyre in for.
Recommended.
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF.../reviews/film/
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Saw this at Wizard World Chicago last night and it was incredible.
Kevin Conroy voicing Batman through every segment, the music, and the art design made this movie just bad**!
It doesns't really bridge the gap between "Batman Begins" and "Dark Knight" but it was cool regardless.
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Yeah, if you want you can make a thread about it Birdy.
Kevin Conroy is truly a brilliant voice actor.
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I though Superman: Doomsday was very disappointing in the long run, cause it started strong, then fell flat on it's face in the middle.
Justice League: The New Frontier was a step in the right direction.
Hopefully, Gotham Knight will live up to expectations.
I'm a big fan of the Animatrix, so I hope this is on that same level.
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I hope the same Bender Bending Rodriguez.
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I'm watching this right now.
I'll post my review in the proper thread when I finish, but for now I'm just going to say it's not bad.
I've only just finished the first segment, but I like the idea of the whole thing so far.
It reminds me a lot of The Animatrix, only better.
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Quote: : It reminds me a lot of The Animatrix, only better.
From a marketing point of view it's exactly like the ani-matrix.
And here's the review thread:
http://forums.comingsoon.net/showthread.php?t=50841
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Quote: : I'm watching this right now.
I thought this was being released next tueday in all of Canada?
It is over this way anyways.
I have the first 30 or so issues of Batman:Year One.
That's what this kind of reminds me of.
The Dark loomy feel of it all.
But this is only by seeing the trailers of course.
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Quote: : I'm watching this right now.
I'll post my review in the proper thread when I finish, but for now I'm just going to say it's not bad.
I've only just finished the first segment, but I like the idea of the whole thing so far.
It reminds me a lot of The Animatrix, only better.
Wait, so you got this and it comes out like a week from now and is The Animatrix better or this?
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Well, it did leak online MC.
I had no intentions of buying/renting this, so I figured I may as well just watch it now.
And yeah, it's better than the Animatrix.
A lot better, actually.
I'm through the first four segments, and only one of them annoyed me.
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It leaked online.
Hmm, my lust for Batman is over powering me.
Stop me please. HAHAH, you know a review will be up by me tommorow, haha.
I still plan on getting this for DVD.
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I've been pausing in between every segment to add on to my review, but then I realized that all I'm doing is writing a synopsis of every segment (so far, I'll wrap it up with a few final thoughts of my own).
I'll still post it in the other thread, but I'll have to tag 80% of it probably.
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Quote: : I've been pausing in between every segment to add on to my review, but then I realized that all I'm doing is writing a synopsis of every segment (so far, I'll wrap it up with a few final thoughts of my own).
I'll still post it in the other thread, but I'll have to tag 80% of it probably.
What I think would be best is just like add a two sentence summary for each segment.
Overall for me all I care is how well it attaches to Batman and the animation.
Like anime to me is very hard to be entertained by.
I can't stand the big eyes and the obscene laughter, so if its got that I'm avoiding it.
I just found a pirated copy(should say copies) and I'm downloading, I'm gonna watch it in da morning, so excited.
Thanks Tornado, your help today just saved you a couple wins for debates against us.
Haha.
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Saved me a couple of wins?
I'm pretty sure I beat you in almost every one of our debates.
I'm kidding, of course.
The majority of arguments as heated as ours have been on here end with all parties looking like idiots.
There are no winners.
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Quote: : Saved me a couple of wins?
I'm pretty sure I beat you in almost every one of our debates.
I'm kidding, of course.
The majority of arguments as heated as ours have been on here end with all parties looking like idiots.
There are no winners.
Meh, I think win wise it's pretty fair.
Most of the time you are right we either make each other look stupid to the point we can't fight no more or we are fighting over a misread subject which seems apparent most of these days.
Hurry up with your review already.
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Quote: : Meh, I think win wise it's pretty fair.
Most of the time you are right we either make each other look stupid to the point we can't fight no more or we are fighting over a misread subject which seems apparent most of these days.
Hurry up with your review already.
Tell you what, wait three or four years, and then re-read our arguments.
I used to argue with Fanible all the time about nothing, and I used to think I was winning too.
I'm not saying either one of us wins more than the other because it's a stupid thing to try and quantify, but I think you'd be surprised by your positions on the topics we've covered.
I know I was when I went back and re-read my arguments with Fanible.
And like I said, I'll post a brief summary of what I thought of the movie as a whole in the thread when it's over, but I'm not going to talk about the individual segments (outside of spoiler tags).
I'm almost done now.
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I know what you mean about the arguments.
I think generally we get in them usually after one has like a bad day or something because most of the time the arguments make no damn sense.
Well, I need a review to last me until morning when I do watch it.
Damn I just started downloading it at 9:30 and I'm 40 percent done, whoot.
I gotta go to bed soon though.
Damnit get on that review, haha.
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Quote: : Overlooking the Tornado/MC "debates," let's find out where we stand.
Looking to our four judges for a final vote?
1.
*Tornado*
2. *Tornado*
3.
*Tornado*
aaaand
4.
*M....
wait, wait.
I think we might get one in there.
What's that written on his board?
Oh... no, sorry. Our last panel fell asleep and drooled some of his curry onto the voting sheet.
I swear that looks like an "M", though, doesn't it?
Okay, hold on, here he comes around.
Yup, that's it!
4.
*Tornado*
It's a straight win!
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Quote: : Wow if that isn't the most bias and most oppinionated thing I've ever read.
Oh wait its Fanible, .
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