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Of Hooks And Wrist-wraps...Wrist-Damage? - John Stone Fitness Forums
Was just reading an article on Hooks and Wrist-Wraps which said:-
The canvas-type wrist strap can actually do the wrist joint damage if you have it cinched where the hand and fore-arm meet right at the joint.
Therefore you must wrap it above the joint on the lower fore-arm or the connective tissue at the joint is taking the whole load....not good.
That got me thinking about Hooks.
I have two types of hooks, neither of which wrap above the joint.
They seem to wrap around an area about 4" wide....which would include the joint but also extends somewhat past it.
I haven't seen a set of hooks that specifically takes this into consideration.
Know of any?
I don't use the canvas straps (although I have a pair).
I don't like them at all.
They don't (for me) improve my grip much at all.
But I do use the hooks when need be
If I wrapped my hooks above the joint, the hook would be too high to fit in my hand correctly
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I've always been under the impression that if you need hooks to hold the weight, it's probably too much.
When you can finally hold the weight, you're ready to handle it.
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I stopped using straps and now my grip is stonger and my forearms are bigger.
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I hear ya...
I never use hooks for Deads.
But I use them when I want to blast my Lats by excluding the grip portion of the pull.
So I go thumbless grip with hooks.
I also use them on neg chins/pullups , where I want to exclude the grip somewhat.
Don't use them when I've got my "A" game going though...
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Quote: : i've always been under the impression that if you need hooks to hold the weight, it's probably too much.
When you can finally hold the weight, you're ready to handle it.
I am with you on this one, but I think if you are using them to focus more on an area then go for it.
To me its almost like using stops.
As long as you are using it for a reason and not just to show off how much weight you can lift.
Form over heavy weight to me is always a better choice.
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I use APT's hooks....love 'em!
Very comfortable...I pretty much never use straps anymore.
For the record, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using hooks (or straps)...
There is no way I am going to limit my deadlift (or any exercise for that matter) due to grip fatigue...
Sure, when I'm going for a PR 1RM, I'll do it raw...but for working sets, when I need the hooks to continue...I use them...
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Quote: : I use APT's hooks....love 'em!
Very comfortable...I pretty much never use straps anymore.
For the record, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using hooks (or straps)...
There is no way I am going to limit my deadlift (or any exercise for that matter) due to grip fatigue...
Sure, when I'm going for a PR 1RM, I'll do it raw...but for working sets, when I need the hooks to continue...I use them...
Have you tried any grip exercises?
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Quote: : To me its almost like using stops.
I thought that was a Arnold Arm Blaster, do you mean that is a "stop"?
Are there other "stops"?
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Quote: : I thought that was a Arnold Arm Blaster, do you mean that is a "stop"?
Are there other "stops"?
I call them one thing people call them another.
That is the arm blaster.
I call it a "stop" because it "stops" you doing bad form.
( I know it can't stop everything, but it helps)
Also people I have seen use "stops" on squatting when they sit back and hit a chair or what ever they put there to let the know to "stop" and go back up.
I guess I just word things weird lol.
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Quote: : Have you tried any grip exercises?
Sure...and I don't have a weak grip....
But when you are doing deadlifts, rows, chins, shrugs, power cleans, etc....on back and traps day...the grip begins to limit exercises.
Which, in my opinion, is not an option...
I think anyone who lets their grip dictate what they deadlift, or power clean, or shrug is making a mistake.
I'm talking working sets here...not 1RM type stuff...
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And of course this begs the question:-
If you use hooks to Dead past the point where your grip can't support it,does this mean that overall you will get bigger mass/muscle -wise which would mean that more muscle would go to your hands and fore-arms giving you a better grip in the long haul because you're lifting bigger weights with hooks/straps?
Squats/Deads are the Growth-hormone /Mass lifts.
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Quote: : And of course this begs the question:-
If you use hooks to Dead past the point where your grip can't support it,does this mean that overall you will get bigger mass/muscle -wise which would mean that more muscle would go to your hands and fore-arms giving you a better grip in the long haul because you're lifting bigger weights with hooks/straps?
Yes, but not as fast as if you did a lot of grip work.
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