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YaBB Chat and Support Community - Can't change category access / RSS problem
Hi,
I have two problems this time:
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I have a group "*** BLOCKED ***" which should lead to a category "Private" and a board "So you are blocked".
However... I can't change the access rights for the category so that the "*** BLOCKED ***" group will have access.
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Related to the previous: I found out that if a user has RSS activated on the index level of the forums (main index), then he/she will also see messages in groups he/she doesn't have access to.
The message that I prepared in the "So you are blocked" board popped up a moment ago in my browser's (Opera) RSS reader, which I think it should have!
YaBB version: 2.2.1
Mods: None
Link to forum: http://forum.hazeleger.net
Did anyone experience similar problems, and if you solved them...
What was the solution to the problem?
Thanks for any sugggestions
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Review this and verify you have the member group permissions set correctly for both Category and Boards in question.
Your private boards are showing up in your RSS because either you are viewing it as Admin (thus can see the private board) or you don't have the permissions for viewing set correctly.
Try making a regular user account so you can view the RSS with that level of permission and see if you can see the private board.
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OH Eng wrote on 06/05/08 at 20:10:55:
Review this and verify you have the member group permissions set correctly for both Category and Boards in question.
Uhm, I am not really a YaBB newbie, I understand this;
But starting with the Categories, that is where the trouble starts: I can select the group (s) I want to link to that specific Category, save them, all seems to be well, BUT...
When I go back only "Administrator" is selected;
Making the board(s) invisible to the target groups...
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Your private boards are showing up in your RSS because either you are viewing it as Admin (thus can see the private board) or you don't have the permissions for viewing set correctly.
Try making a regular user account so you can view the RSS with that level of permission and see if you can see the private board.
Uhm...
See previous reply, I cant set the access rights for that category...
Could be that my log in is playing tricks here...
Will try to figure out later today, thanks for the hint!
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Verify your Boards folder is CHMOD 755, and that the file permissions are 666 for the forum.control and forum.master files.
Forum control contains the board name, board picture link, board description, and what membergroups have view/reply/start/poll access to that board.
Forum master is basically the same but for categories and boards.
Open one of them up in a text editor, you'll get the idea.
Check to see if the permissions are being written correctly in those files.
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OH Eng wrote on 06/05/08 at 23:40:51:
Verify your Boards folder is CHMOD 755, and that the file permissions are 666 for the forum.control and forum.master files.
Forum control contains the board name, board picture link, board description, and what membergroups have view/reply/start/poll access to that board.
Forum master is basically the same but for categories and boards.
Open one of them up in a text editor, you'll get the idea.
OK, I have checked the CHMOD for the Boards directory and the files in it, they are correct.
However... the problem still persists.
I tried to see if the problem was caused by the name of the member group (starting with ***), but that didn't bring a solution either.
I also changed similar settings in a different board, and Lo and behold they dit stick...
Would it be a good action to create a different category with board, move my post to that one, and then delete the private category and board alltogether and start all over with that one?
Quote: :
Check to see if the permissions are being written correctly in those files.
No change!
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You could create a new board (make sure board ID and name are different than original board) and move all the content, then once you're sure it's working, delete the original board.
Make a backup before you try it.
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OH Eng wrote on 06/06/08 at 08:16:01:
You could create a new board (make sure board ID and name are different than original board) and move all the content, then once you're sure it's working, delete the original board.
Make a backup before you try it.
That worked!
Any idea what could have caused this?
Now I only have to find out how to make folks in "*** Blocked ***" only see this group and no others, then I'll be really ducky.
As for your sig: I have 6, the six time zones I most frequently communicate with...
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Restricting is as easy as "hightlighting/selecting" only the membergroups allowed ...
(using ctrl/click)
Administrator
Global Moderator
***Blocked***
In the Category or a specific Board
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Captain John wrote on 06/06/08 at 13:13:41:
Restricting is as easy as "hightlighting/selecting" only the membergroups allowed ...
(using ctrl/click)
Administrator
Global Moderator
***Blocked***
In the Category or a specific Board
Hi CJ,
OK, the problem is: Guests should see all public boards and the posts in it;
Members the same, with the ability to post (I know how to handle that), and blocked people should only be able to viist the "Blocked" private board...
And post there.
Last night I have been experimenting quite a bit, but I can't get it done.
Blocking on my forum will be a "severe warning", just short of banning...
But it has to work first
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There's no way to allow guests to view all boards and members of a Blocked group to only view the Blocked board.
To allow guests to view the Blocked board, you have to select NO member groups in the Allowed to View board permissions.
To allow members of the Blocked group to view it, you have to select the Blocked member group.
You can't do both;
1 or the other. You could allow guest to view everything except the Blocked board and only show that to the Blocked group.
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Oh Eng,
Thanks for your reply.
Oops, I think I tried to be too clear in what I want, and became unclear.
What I want in brief:
Guest can see all public boards (not the private ones, like "Blocked"), no posting.
Member, the same as guest, with posting.
Blocked, sees none of the public boards, only the blocked board.
The problem that I encounter is, that the blocked either sees all public boards AND the blocked board, or he/she doesn't see anything...
I think I miss a "Not visible to" option...
If you want to use my plain member level test account (currently set to "banned" );
I can PM you the details.
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Dick Hazeleger wrote on 06/07/08 at 07:24:09:
what I want in brief:
Guest can see all public boards (not the private ones, like "Blocked"), no posting.
Blocked, sees none of the public boards, only the blocked board.
This is what I'm saying you cannot achieve.
To keep "Blocked" from seeing the public boards, you have to select the other member groups EXCEPT them.
But as soon as you select ANY member group or groups, you lose the ability for Guests to view that board.
I know you said you aren't a newbie (I never said you were) but it might help you to review that tutorial I referred to above.
It has helpful sentences that you can use to determine who can/can't see a board.
See the first part of Section III.
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The problem that I encounter is, that the blocked either sees all public boards AND the blocked board, or he/she doesn't see anything...
Well you're stuck there.
Maybe a way to work around it is to simply strip the ability of the Blocked group to reply/start topic/poll in the public boards since you already have those under group control (no guests) anyway.
That's about the best you can do given the limitations of the software.
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To put it another way, and to try to simplify things a little bit for you, imagine this scenario:
A "blocked" user logs into the boards and sees that they can only visit the "blocked" board.
If all other boards are visible to guests, what would stop the blocked user from simply logging out of the forums to see the rest of the boards?
So, as Oh Eng is saying, because of that logic, there is no way to hide boards from members that are publicly visible to guests.
It just wouldn't make sense.
Therefore, you will most likely need to decide whether to:
a) make all of the regular boards visible to everyone, including the "blocked" member group
or
b) hide all of the boards that you want to be hidden from "blocked" so that guests can't see them
However, if you are just trying to make the "blocked" board prominent so that the "blocked" users are sure to see it, you could simply place that board at the top of the forums, and adjust the description a little bit to make it look different from the others.
That way, when someone gets added to the "blocked" group, they will be sure to see it first.
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Oh Eng, Curtiss Grymala, hi to you both!
I was afraid of this being the answer I'd get.
I think Curtiss' suggestion is the only I could to to point to the blocked board.
I have to rethink this.
Guys, thanks for thinking with me.
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