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PC Pro: Interactive: Forums: Comments: Leopard gives the boot to Boot Camp beta

Apple has reminded Boot Camp users that the license for the current beta version will expire this month. Click here to read the full article

Quote: : In a note on its website, Apple reaffirmed that the Boot Camp Beta programme expires when Mac OS 10.5 Leopard becomes available in October 2007. They better give existing users a margin of error.

It could take a number of days for the software to be delivered and I know that I will be waiting till I can get a Leopard version of Tech Tool Pro before I update.

I guess that others may also wait for a while before upgrading.

Does anyone know when Leopard will be out? I'm leaving Japan in 2 weeks and I don't know what to do??? Maybe I should wait? Maybe I should buy a MacBook with Tiger and then hope that Apple give free upgrades to people who bought it within a certain time frame (do they normally do this?)

Cancelling it on the day/in the month Leopard is released sounds a little on the silly side, it is going to hack off a lot of users. I won't be upgrading to Leopard on the day of release, I'll be waiting to see if there are any major problems, before I take the plunge.

I probably will upgrade, although I haven't been overly impressed with much of the UI overhaul... It seems a little short-sighted of Apple to expect customers to switch on day one.

I can understand them leaving the users of the beta with a 3-6 month window to upgrade, but less than a month? Quote: : Since Boot Camp was unveiled, more flexible commercial alternatives such as Parallels Desktop for Mac and VMWare's Fusion have been introduced.

Unlike Boot Camp, which requires that the Mac quit OS X to reboot in Windows, these allow Windows and Windows applications to run within and alongside OS X. It depends on what you mean by more flexible.

If the Windows applications require 3D, then you still need Boot Camp, Parallels and Fusion don't handle 3D well (getting 2-3fps instead of 100fps in BootCamp isn't acceptable). For desktop applications, I agree, it the VMs give a more flexible solution.

Quote: : Does anyone know when Leopard will be out? No idea, though 10.4.11 is due out soon. Quote: : I'm leaving Japan in 2 weeks and I don't know what to do??? Maybe I should wait? Maybe I should buy a MacBook with Tiger and then hope that Apple give free upgrades to people who bought it within a certain time frame (do they normally do this?) Well contact Apple and see what they say.

It could take a few days after you order before you get a machine, so maybe there will be a deal.

Unless Apple offer a really good deal for a new machine and depending on where you are going maybe you can get one where you are going?

Quote: : Cancelling it on the day/in the month Leopard is released sounds a little on the silly side, it is going to hack off a lot of users. I'm not sure I can see the problem, surely the only people who are going to be affected are those who want to create a Windows partition on their Tiger system after Leopard has come out? I wouldn't have though that would be many people at all, I'm sure most of existing Mac users who are likely to want to boot into Windows will probably have already set it up, and new users will be getting Leopard on their new machines anyway.

Quote: : I wouldn't have though that would be many people at all, I'm sure most of existing Mac users who are likely to want to boot into Windows will probably have already set it up, and new users will be getting Leopard on their new machines anyway. What about those using Tiger now and with no immediate plans to upgrade to Leopard.

I took a few months before I upgraded to Tiger.

I may be delayed again.

I want there to be third party system tools available before I switch.

What's to stop anyone from downloading the installer now and just using it when they need to?

If there is a debilitation script built in to the installer you could set your date back, install, then set your date back to present, no?

Quote: : Quote: : Cancelling it on the day/in the month Leopard is released sounds a little on the silly side, it is going to hack off a lot of users. I'm not sure I can see the problem, surely the only people who are going to be affected are those who want to create a Windows partition on their Tiger system after Leopard has come out? I wouldn't have though that would be many people at all, I'm sure most of existing Mac users who are likely to want to boot into Windows will probably have already set it up, and new users will be getting Leopard on their new machines anyway. Apple has said that the licence will expire in October.

That means, that you won't be able to use it to boot into Windows/Linux after it has expired, not that you won't be able to download the Beta any more...

AFAIK, the license expiring doesn't mean the beta will cease to work - it simply means it's unsupported and you're probably being a very naughty person for continuing to use it. Of course, being a good and decent person, you'll snap up Leopard on the first day in order to stop using the beta and be the right side of the license.

Quote: : AFAIK, the license expiring doesn't mean the beta will cease to work - it simply means it's unsupported and you're probably being a very naughty person for continuing to use it. Of course, being a good and decent person, you'll snap up Leopard on the first day in order to stop using the beta and be the right side of the license. Unless any update ibricks your system

I only just installed boot camp and vista, it was a complete hassle activating vista i had to call and do it, I will be buying Leopard on release (i have a compulsion to buy newly released stuff) will Leopard update Tiger and leave boot camp beta alone?

Quote: : ...will Leopard update Tiger and leave boot camp beta alone? In normal circumstances it should be just a simple matter of pressing the 'upgrade' button when running the Leopard installer.

However, as BootCamp is currently beta software, I'd suggest you carefully read the release notes to check if it has advice on what to do with a BootCamp partition.

Quote: : Apple has said that the licence will expire in October.

That means, that you won't be able to use it to boot into Windows/Linux after it has expired. I seriously doubt it means that. Unless I've missed something (always a possibility!) all the Boot Camp software does is partition your disk and create a CD containing the Windows drivers for your Mac.

Once you have done that and installed Windows (or Linux) you shoudn't need to use it again - unless you want to resize, or remove your Windows/Linux partition.

True KW, although the drivers are part of the Boot Camp download (in fact, the major part of BC seems to be the drivers).

If the licence expires, it implies that I can't use the drivers any more... I think you are correct, the Windows partition will continue to be usable, and I doubt the drivers will expire, but the wording is vague enough that the "revoke licence" implies that the Boot Camp utility and the drivers which belong to it won't be usable after that date...